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nfp40uk 36 ( +1 | -1 )
The Ruy Lopez I am quite new to gameknot ( IThink it is a brilliant site and very well managed) however, other sites I've played on used to see a major play on the ruy lopez. Now, only 2 out of the 18 or so games i have played so far have i seen this noble opening used. Am I behind the times, do people generally dislike this opening or am I missing something?

brunetti 26 ( +1 | -1 )
No people doesn't dislike it and it's one of the best openings for White after 1.e4 e5. Anyway, it's seldom employed at low level, because it implies profound strategical concepts. If you will play strong players a lot of times, you will face it more times.

refutor 29 ( +1 | -1 )
nfp40uk even though you're a little stronger than me ;) i enjoy playing the ruy lopez with either color...i tried to challenge you but it said you have too many active games...if you're looking for a lopez from either side (that goes for everybody else too) challenge me to a game ;)
hugothebest2001 24 ( +1 | -1 )
difficult! I think that it is very difficult to play with black against the Ruy Lopez. I have not a good result with black. What do you people think which kind of variation is the best reply against it?

triangulator 28 ( +1 | -1 )
I like it although i have been playing the modern lately , I think it is because of all these "let the opp. build a center and attack it" defences that the ruy lopez is played less often- but i do agree with brunetti that you willl see it a little more on the higher levels of play.
chessjunkie 32 ( +1 | -1 )
The Ruy Lopez (I prefer Morphy defence) I've always heard that the Ruy Lopez is among the very hardest openings for black to meet. It's not impossible to meet, it's just very strong :P

As brunetti has said, there's lots of deep concepts in this opening, and I'm sure it takes a while to master.

The best way to meet it? My favorite is the Morphy Defence, 3...a6
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nfp40uk 41 ( +1 | -1 )
ruy lopez brunetti

Yes I agree that it is not played at low level, I play club level at around 2000 where its played a lot, you are right it requires deep thinking especially when playing the classical, berlin, bird and indeed the unusual schlieman I just was inquisitive that i have not seen it a lot on Gameknot. What are other peoples favourite variation of the lopez? I hate the exchange preferring the steinitz
nfp40uk 9 ( +1 | -1 )
ruy lopez thanks refutor thats an offer i will definetly take up!
Thanks for the challenge
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p8ntballjunky1 13 ( +1 | -1 )
i love the ruy lopez. i am not that strong yet, but that is all i will play if black lets me, i hate playing against though!!!!!!
triangulator 12 ( +1 | -1 )
when i started playing the ruy lopez was all i was for my first 3 tourneys- now this is in the 1000- uscf rated players but when i got up to 15-1600 i stopped seeing it
mrzor 136 ( +1 | -1 )
Ruy Lopez I am a die-hard 1...e5 player and I must say that the Ruy Lopez is the only way to worry me. That is not to say that I haven't lost against other openings, but they are distinctly less troublesome for black to meet than the good old Spanish. When I see white playing 3.Bb5 I tell myself to be careful.

All those other "open games" (King's gambit, Italian, Bishop opening, Vienna, Scotch, Ponziani, Two Knights, Center gambit and what more be there) all suffer from the same flaw: They open the center and lash out before white's own develmopment is completed. Basically black can just develop along, put his own pieces on their best squares and reach equality. If white refuses to acquiesce, then he risks overplaying his hand quickly. I have won more than just a few games in less than 20 moves when playing 1...e5.

But the Ruy is a different story. White doesn't bother much about immediate attacks, but builds up a solid and positionally very sound game. Speed is not really of the issue and this approach is intrinsically more well-founded than those "chip 'n charge" openings mentioned above.

In short, a player who plays 3.Bb5 against me, instantly gains my respect, whereas other moves make me feel more confident just as instantly.

adrianallen 11 ( +1 | -1 )
I usually avoid it as black By play Petrov's Defence, but love it as white. Most people seem to meet e4 with c5 though
steveoz 10 ( +1 | -1 )
The Ruy Lopez My favourite against the Lopez is the Bird's Defence
3...Nd4. It really takes the sting out of White's attack.
t0ned0g 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Schliemann Underrated........actually a good way to play if you hate getting strangled in the Schliemann! The Qg5 variation sucks but the Qd5 variation isn't bad!
victord 77 ( +1 | -1 )
ruy lopez I don't even know why, but I play it almost exclusively as white. I think I discovered as a beginner that it really frustrates a lot of players when you take the Kt and screw up their perfect pawn structure. Now I think of it .. I think that's how I "discovered" it. Someone used it against me a lot and I was always trying to "save" my Kt. I lost a lot of games like that but eventually began useing it myself out of respect. I never studied opening books until GK, and not that much yet.
I just create off of those first few moves and I guess I've faced every defence their is .. I just don't know their names ..but I'm beginning to look deeper into it.
For the first time I'm trying to find 'my' defence. I'm exploreing the Alekhine now. It completely avoids the Ruy Lopez on the first move .... that's as far as I've got. ;-)
furious 25 ( +1 | -1 )
The Ruy Lopez It is has too much of a paved road for my taste, I hate knowing that the defender is doing what he is doing because the book said so and not because of his own talent. Also Im way too new to this game to be intensively researching as sophisticated of an opening as the spanish game.
nightwalker 43 ( +1 | -1 )
Perhaps mrzor.........? I love to play the Ruy Lopez(Spanish Game) as white and black. Well now mrzor if you feel that anything other than 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 is not very good then I would surgest that you challenge Mr. Brunetti(when possible) as he plays the King's Gambit so you will have good confidence from move 2 !
I will also be taking up refutor's offer of a good old Spanish game!
All the best, S.J.Mutch.
mrzor 145 ( +1 | -1 )
That's not fair, nightwalker We both know that Brunetti is too strong for me and that he would beat me with any opening.
If I were to play against a certain Mr. Kasparov who played 1.a4 and 2.h4 against me, I would probably still lose in 20-25 moves. That has nothing to do with the opening, but rather with the strength of the players.

It's interesting to see that the really strong guys hardly ever play 2.f4 (and by really strong I do not mean players of the likes of IGM Gallagher and such, but the real deal, the top notch players). They almost exclusively play the RL. Spassky did play the KG (but then again he had a weak spot for unusual openings - he also played the closed Sicilian as white, an extremely rare choice at his level) in his day but that's already a few decades ago. Top GMs do vary now and then to unsettle their opponents. Kasparov toyed with the Scotch for awhile (though he now seems to have given up on it) and there are isolated cases where white wins in style in a romantic opening (I remember a famous 'italian' game Ljubojevic-Korchnoi, Brussels 1987). But on the whole, these guys stick to the Ruy.

On a personal note, my score against the KG is far from bad. Against players of my own strength, I manage quite well against this opening.

But if you like the KG as white, then by all means keep playing it. After all it does lead to interesting positions and if everyone would all of a sudden start playing the Spanish, then things might get a tad boring indeed :-)

p8ntballjunky1 7 ( +1 | -1 )
furious 5 ( +1 | -1 )
..................and What is your opinions on the exchange variation?
triangulator 7 ( +1 | -1 )
boring easy win for black I have never lost or drawn against it
astinkyfart 18 ( +1 | -1 )
im lower level and ruy lopez is what i play most of the time. although i still haave alot to learn about how to make it work for me. i got stuck on it and now itts almost my only opening