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anaxagoras 15 ( +1 | -1 )
Delaying the game when the end is near Isn't there something that can be done about this?

board #860397
mattafort 25 ( +1 | -1 )
well, what to do? I have some times had my suspicion about
somebody delaying a loss.
But I guess it is mostly a mistake from me.
Why should anybody postpone ALL games,
just because he is bad in our?

That guy you play can't be bad in all his 24 games.
At least that is what I think.
thomaswolf 7 ( +1 | -1 )
Hi everybody ;-))

Maybe try real time chess site ;-))

See you

Thomas ;-))
bellepheron 12 ( +1 | -1 )
About him going on vacation? Or you being rude?

Perhaps you should think about which is the worse offense.
sxyvoice 19 ( +1 | -1 )
Leave it...coz.. Leave it....
Coz U already won...
Time will let U get a good present ( win )..
Just when the opponent will B back, U 'll may say to the one " Welcome Back! " then... U will be A REAL GR8 ( Great manners ) WINNER!
brobishkin 108 ( +1 | -1 )
Delays... I too have seen this increase of vacations taken lately... Of the last 30 games I have played, 20 of them have been on vacation every single month, and taking till the last hours to make a move... I even tried a trick and played a weak move in a few of these type of stalling games... There after, the person (who took so long before making his moves) is all of a sudden here to move constantly... When that person had a weak position, he/she took 3 days, up till a couple of hours left, before making a move... And when ever they could take a postponement, they were there to do so...

So I purposely made a weak move, weakening my position, and here they were two or three times a day to get their win all of a sudden... So dont tell me this rude stuff to state this garbage going down... They are out there and are purposely stalling the win... Try making a bad move yourself and see how the tide changes... They are quick to get their win, but slow slow slow to lose...

finduriel 48 ( +1 | -1 )
don't forget It's also a matter of finding the right move. When it's clear which move gives you an advantage, you can more or less move right away. When you're struggling to find a move that helps you survive, it will inevitably take you much longer. Whether one should play this move that will prolong one's life or just resign with style, well, that's sometimes a hard decision to make!

Cheers. fin
mattafort 23 ( +1 | -1 )

anaxagoras : Isn't there something that can be done about this?

I am afraid not!
We better delay everything we can,
and Pray for Mercy.

indiana-jay 95 ( +1 | -1 )

If you were for a 10-day vacation, resigning your completely lost games would not be good. This is because at least for 10 days you will be recognized with a lower rating than if you didn't resign.

I mean, c'mon, why should that hurt you so bad? Do you want to be recognized with a higher rating as soon as possible (that will be the same then)?

Anaxagoras, I saw that you have only 11 games running so I think you don't really miss something with the delay.

In life, your feeling is everything.
You may be happy when you get a jackpot.
You may be sad when you lose your leg.
You may also be happy when you lose your hand,
because being sad won't bring back your hand anyway.
Now you have won your game.
No prize no money.
But it must be easier to be happy.
(Original indiana-jay)
philaretus 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Top players tend to be bad losers. I suppose it's part of the frame of mind that makes them top players.
skeeterss0 14 ( +1 | -1 )
check out this game its been going since the begining of March.

board #662075
peppe_l 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Indiana-jay But is rating really so important? Werent you the one who defended dragging games in the hope of opponent improving his rating? :-)
indiana-jay 74 ( +1 | -1 )
To me rating has been not so important since I knew what rating means here at GK. I have more important objectives but unfortunately rating is a small part of the objective. I will always pick the strongest opponent available, which wont happen if rating is very important to me. By keeping my average opponent's rating at X, I will easily be rated at X+300. Unfortunately, I wont be able to play with strong players like you if I don't increase my rating (Thank's for the expert section of GK tournaments!).

When I dragged the game, I checked my opponent's running games to see if they really need the slot for a new game. See peppe_l, everyone have excuses... ;)
adman 7 ( +1 | -1 )
philaretus hits it on the head. Name a top player in any field that isn't a bad loser.
peppe_l 22 ( +1 | -1 )
There is a difference Between being a bad loser and acting like one :-)

Yes top players usually hate losing more than ordinary patzers like me, but in most cases here at GK the onen who keep dragging games are not top players...
chessnovice 47 ( +1 | -1 )
... brobishkin : "I too have seen this increase of vacations taken lately..."

Could be because of summer's arrival.

I agree with bellepheron . You won the game, sure. But there's no reason to be rude just because he went on vacation. Perhaps he really is on a vacation - how can you know? Just be patient and wait it out - not that big of a deal.
kremator 122 ( +1 | -1 )
Nothing wrong with that I take time in hard or desperate positions. In fact I remember I won two of my games whie being down in material. I also remember one of my games where I posted a 3 move (forced)checkmate for my opponent and then after playing a video game, returned to the computer forgot all about my words and made a mistake on the second move to checkmate leading to my opponent checkmating me(but he was nice enough to offer a draw because I would've won if I was in my right mind). So really there can always be hope, although hoping your opponent gets drunk and makes a mistake at higher levels is probably evil but at lower lovels its ok. Anyway as long as neither side in the game sees a forced checkmate they should play to the end. After all even in correspondence chess people make mistakes. Right now I am taking taking two days to make my move in all my games because I purchased an awesome PC game =). I am also doing some studying on chess, so I don't make my moves so often. In losing games I also take a while if I don't see that I'm clearly lost because I could pull off a draw but my mind is not eager to think of such grim things so it waits.. and waits....
peppe_l 50 ( +1 | -1 )
Its good to take time when position is difficult But I have noticed surprisingly many players blitz their moves and start taking time only when position is difficult or even desperate! :-) Often it is already too late to save the game then (especially in correspondence chess). This "food chain" is merciless - at least twice I have tried to seek salvation vs GK top player in a position I saw as difficult but my opponent saw as won :-) Of course there was no salvation and I lost both games quickly. But I learned my lesson - hopefully!
anaxagoras 10 ( +1 | -1 )
Regardless, the point is that it takes a lot of temerity to delay a game that is obviously lost.
skeeterss0 18 ( +1 | -1 )
temerity ok you made me look it up. "foolish or rash boldness; foolhardiness;recklessness"

I don't think the term fits.....i think the person is just being childish when they do this.
premium_steve 36 ( +1 | -1 )
continued postponing stinks! but i can't think of anything that can be done to prevent it.
i've been waiting for months now for two players (who love to postpone! :)) to finish the last game of our mini-tournament. check it out: board #524612

it really is pretty funny. i want to play in a different mini-tournament now.... but i can't. no fair!!! :P hahaha
anaxagoras 31 ( +1 | -1 )
Webster's says: unreasonable or foolhardy contempt of danger or opposition: rashness, recklessness.

"Unreasonable contempt of opposition" fits very well indeed.

But maybe the lesson here is that a dictionary is only a paraphrase. If you can find the word in a Nietzche book you'll find an excellent (and humorous) demonstration of its use!
buddy2 26 ( +1 | -1 )
on ICC Time problems in Gameknot? I've noticed recently that some ICC blitz players are just disconnecting in hopeless positions. It happened twice in a week. I realize this has nothing to do with GK, but have any other GK players run into this ICC problem?