20 ( +1 | -1 ) Gary wimps out......in game 6,drawing a promising position in 28 moves.I suppose the inevitable rematch is on its way. Gary claims he had a "headache",that's why he offered the draw. Yeah,the headache was a migraine named Deep Junior.
17 ( +1 | -1 ) Garry admitted…in the postmatch interview that he was trying harder to avoid losing than to win. IMO humans can no longer beat the world's best computers in a match of this type.
17 ( +1 | -1 ) I heard it too,and I think......that was the biggest load of c*** I've ever heard. If he was so scared of losing,why did he play the exchange for 2 pawns sac,which gave him good chances? He was just scared,period.
38 ( +1 | -1 ) No,I would not be scared......even knowing I,as a mere 2100,would have no chance against the critter.But Kasparov could have continued that final position with little or no risk to himself,since all the practical winning chances were on his side.After the feeble "effort" he gave in Game 5,I think he was obligated,somewhat,to do or die. If he loses,he loses.Big,hairy deal!
75 ( +1 | -1 ) I agree... he was just scared and thought too highly of the machine; he held the slightly better position and even admitted as much in the post-game. Even more dissapointing, though, was that the game was actually broadcast live on ESPN2, the first time a major chess match has been televised since Fischer-Spassky. Seirawan and Ashley's commentary was a bit more simplified to make it more accessible to a wider audience, but they did a decent job. It even looked like the game was heading down an reasonably exciting course; who knows what would have happened. Now, I bet the ESPN folks are muttering "Sheesh, that's the last time we try doing something like THAT." Which is really too bad for chess.
20 ( +1 | -1 ) I am also worried that could happen ...... so I think we need lots of peolpe here to write to Schaap and ESPN and thank them, tell them how much we enjoyed it and BEG them to broadcast more chess! Get out and campaign people!!
50 ( +1 | -1 ) caldazarI don't know if I would say the Fischer-Spassky match was televised. What you got was a tv studio somewhere in upstate NY that was showing a demonstration board with Lyman and Pandolfini doing analysis. You never had a live shot of the players. It was broadcast on pbs and I think only to the northeastern portion of America. The tv audience was infinitesimal compared to the world wide audience of today.
I don't think we'll see Kasparov playing computers again---he's too old, can't take the pressure. He reminds me of an aging baseball player who is afraid he won't be able to get out of the way of the ball.
11 ( +1 | -1 ) Yeah, good point tonlesu. But at least it was chess on TV, something I'd personally like to see a bit more of now and again.
37 ( +1 | -1 ) If I were a beginner at chess and was following that game on TV, I would give it up. I don't like the smell of it. There's too much money at stake for Junior to get whipped. Here's the way I picture it: Kasparov sacs the exchange and offers a draw. No, no, they say. Not yet it's too soon. He shrugs, plays a couple of more moves, then Junior offers a draw. Peculiar things going on.
40 ( +1 | -1 ) For those that enjoyed today's TV broadcast...You can, if you wish, email ESPN and let them know what you thought. I'm sure they get so much email that they don't have time to read it all, but hey, you never know.
54 ( +1 | -1 ) caldezar…I agree that it was very unfortunate for chess not to have that game played out. Kasparov should have been mindful of the implications of this game being televised. He could have parlayed the exposure into lucrative endorsements and appearance fees had he shown the viewers some drama and excitement rather than cashing in his chips.
Thanks for the link to ESPN. I will definitely send an email and urge everyone who wants to see more chess on TV to do the same. Beats the crap out of figure skating.
117 ( +1 | -1 ) Garry's motives?I completely agree w/ you honololou, et. al. It was a real shame the way the match ended.
I still don't understand why GK played the sac attack with a positional advantage resulting from it, only to offer a draw shortly afterwards. Was the sole purpose of the sac (and hence the better position), to give his opponent a stronger inclination to accept a draw? If yes, then Garry NEVER intended to go for the win, but rather, dare I say it, to "goforthedraw"?
IMHO, black and white were equally $$$ greedy. It's a shame that FIDE didn't prepare for this possibility by insisting that in a drawn match such as this, the last game could not be concluded by mutual drawing....instead they should have specified some other alternative (sudden death time rules / additional games?) to end the match. Had Garry been confronted with this, he surely would have applied himself more in his last game.
Prior to the bomb shell result, during their running commentary, Seirawan and Ashley kept referring to GK's tenacious will to succeed ...comparing him to a Tiger. All I (and many other fans) saw, was a scared putty cat.
Overall, a sad day for chess.
74 ( +1 | -1 ) ESPN's show "Pardon The Interruption"I was reading these forums with my TV on mute when I happened to look at my TV and saw they had just finished talking about chess. I don't know what they said but it will repeat at 9:30pm Portland time (about 10 minutes from now), I'm going to watch it and I'll report what they said here unless someone else beats me to it! For those who miss this one also, they repeat again at midnight and again at 2am Portland time. I hope they say good things about chess. At least they're talking about it! If anyone want to write them to thank them/argue with them, they give their e-mail address during the show.
13 ( +1 | -1 ) gambitnut...Thank You !!! I didn't know it was on ESPN 2 or even talked about on PTI. I will watch it as well. 1am Mountain Standard time.
71 ( +1 | -1 ) You're welcome pureredwhiteblu!And, a big thank you Kepler for reporting it in the first place!!
Jackie MacMullan, sitting in for Michael Wilbon who was in Atlanta for the NBA All-Star game, said she had goosebumps and was excited to see if Kasparov could beat the computer! Tony Kornheiser said he didn't care, thought a focused zebra could beat Kasparov and thought it said something terrible about the chess world that they couldn't find a human opponent for Kasparov.
If you want to praise Jackie or blast Tony, the show's e-mail address is [email protected]
The ESPN web site isn't working with my browser tonight so could somebody please post the actual e-mail address for ESPN, or at least send it to me. Thank you.
70 ( +1 | -1 ) What people expect is6 games that are all decided by straight-forward kingside attacks or tactical melees...no queen exchanges, no closed positions, no endgames, no draws. Too bad chess isnt like that :-)
Was it wise to play so agressive, dunno. In the last game Junior showed it had no clue about how to play the type of Sicilian position they had. While Kaspy improved his position with thematic play, Junior just made "neutral" waiting moves that allowed Kaspy to gain a clear positional advantage.
Overall, exciting match! Still, I hope they will concentrate on chess between humans for now, I am waiting for Kramnik - Leko & Ponomariov - Kasparov.
23 ( +1 | -1 ) I don't know too much about chess computers. However, if Kasparov is the best human player in the world then wasn't deep junior, and deep blue for that matter, programmed by humans?
Or am I missing something?
7 ( +1 | -1 ) how many millions of moves can YOU calculate in your head per second ....
28 ( +1 | -1 ) Why doesn't ESPN Classic....play some of the Classic Chess Championships.Fischer/Spassky or whomever. They got the money for paidperview all ready. Look at Boxing, they do the same thing. I dunno, I just with Chess was a popular here as it is in Russia.(except for the Govt. involvement/pressure)
7 ( +1 | -1 ) I don't know if ...... there is enough video footage for ESN Classic to show them.
7 ( +1 | -1 ) thats what they do with...the old-school boxing matches-show only 'highlights'...
5 ( +1 | -1 ) But ...a number of the matches might not have ANY footage!
11 ( +1 | -1 ) let's not get carried away…Somehow, I don't see ESPN rummaging throught the vaults looking for footage of chess matches from the past.
16 ( +1 | -1 ) AnywayI think it is a pity that chess is being neglected, while curling and other sports with far less public interest get a lot more airtime.
4 ( +1 | -1 ) pure…I agree with you, but curling is cool, too.
7 ( +1 | -1 ) IndeedI have tried it and liked it however not as challenging and intruiging as chess.